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Marc Hermans's avatar

Strong essay, but I’m not convinced changing the “rails” is enough. A few concerns:

1. As long as price competition dominates, scale still wins. Large firms don’t need to cheat; they can simply undercut prices, pull volume, and concentrate power—perfectly within the rules.

2. This means better protocols may constrain abuse, but they don’t prevent consolidation. A giant retailer can still outcompete smaller or associative producers on price alone.

3. Consumer choice is not neutral here. Financial pressure pushes people toward cheaper options, reinforcing scale regardless of transparency or exit.

4. The proposal reshapes how selfishness operates, but not what drives the system. Financial self-interest remains the core incentive; only the rules of the game change.

5. That risks stabilizing a “better-behaved” corporate capitalism rather than addressing the deeper problem: commodified land, labor, and capital.

6. Associative economics (e.g. Steiner) suggests a more fundamental shift—organizing production, distribution, and consumption through negotiated associations instead of impersonal price competition.

7. When people are directly involved in enterprises, responsibility cannot be externalized as easily, and social, moral, and ecological incentives can genuinely operate alongside economic ones.

8. The open question for me is whether constraint-based systems like this are sufficient on their own, or whether they must be paired with deeper changes in ownership, pricing, and responsibility—especially since our economic system also shapes culture and morality, with profound implications for society’s future.

Just to be clear about this when it comes to the "invisible hand made visible":

Making the hand visible by improving rules and protocols is valuable, but it doesn’t resolve the deeper issue: what the hand is actually optimizing for. As long as price competition and capital efficiency remain dominant, the hand still points toward scale and concentration—even without fraud or capture. Large firms don’t need to bend the rules; they can simply outcompete on price, pulling volume and power within perfectly “clean” rails.

The problem, then, isn’t only invisible coordination but invisible responsibility. When land, labor, and capital are treated as commodities, prices conceal social and ecological costs, and the hand reliably rewards detachment. Associative approaches suggest that what’s needed is not just better constraints on self-interest, but different forms of coordination altogether—where producers, distributors, and consumers negotiate outcomes consciously, and responsibility cannot be externalized. Otherwise, we risk making the invisible hand more legible while it continues to shape an economy—and a culture—driven primarily by accumulation rather than shared human needs.

Desbois's avatar

That's a rather interesting interpretation or reading of Adam Smith. Not being an expert on the subject but knowing the mainstream version, I find it amusing to hear another perspective. However, I'm wary of confirmation bias that risks leading us down often very subjective paths. Correlation is not causation.

Regarding common goods, the common good, and the commons, there's already a delicate interpretation that Anglo-Saxons tend to overlook. Societies are built on structurally different conceptions and thus find different solutions to the problems they encounter. Here are a few examples that may partly corroborate the interpretation you made of Adam Smith's ideas. I'll give 3 examples that France implemented at 3 different times but which have in common that they intervened during financial crises or wars. Following Napoleon's defeat and the extraction of citizens' savings to fund his campaigns, high-ranking French officials concerned about this preemption for personal interest (the emperor) decided to create a financial institution protected by the state but independent of successive governments. They invented La Caisse des Dépôts et Consignations: The money received by this institution could only be used to fund common goods and would be untouchable by successive governments. This fund was supplied by local savings banks. It was a form of cosmo-localism before the current term. For more information, it still exists https://www.caissedesdepots.fr/en , although it has been severely attacked by

private banks on the legal basis of: unfair competition! complaint before European authorities.

The second example concerns the creation of a health and retirement social security system after World War II. These two pillars, which guaranteed fair treatment whether rich or poor in the face of illness and old age, are also strongly attacked by liberals under mathematical pretexts due to "monetary scarcity" in a country with an aging population. The third example is the creation of a mutual car insurance company in 1934, whose concept survived World War II thanks to the continued financial commitment of 30% of people despite an impossibility of use! The commitment in this mutual oriented towards teachers (public service) therefore doesn't have clients but members. Each person is co-responsible for the company and is called upon to vote on the evolution of a number of topics, much like DAOs may have thought to invent it.

This mutual has gone from 301 members including 13 schoolteachers in 1934 to 4.1 million members and €23 billion in managed assets over 90 years. At MAIF, there are no shareholders. The company acts solely for the benefit of its members. Through their behavior and commitments, each of them contributesin return to the group's health. It gives the most invested among them a predominant role. In direct contact with members, these MAIF activists are active

in all regions of France. Their commitment works in close complementarity with employees, with the same ambition to serve members. 750 elected members represent the others at the general assembly and vote on major decisions!

Although these examples corroborate the statements made in the article, I don't believe that the availability of new tools is the main determinant of change. Capitalism is a more complex subject of discussion that needs to be defined more precisely in its temporal development in my opinion. Adam Smith's thinking is situated at a moment that carries very different circumstances from those we are currently experiencing.

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